Of special interest here is the sudden change of positions by prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee. From threats to attack Pakistani Kashmir, he has suddenly executed a U-turn and offered serious talks on Kashmir. But if the past is anything to go by, it is felt that Islamabad would be foolish to fall into this trap. "Despite this offer from Vajpayee, keeping in view the past experiences, Pakistan wants that bilateral talks should be held in the presence of a neutral mediator," declares foreign minister Gohar Ayub Khan. "Our experiences have shown that whenever such talks were initiated, these assumed the shape of propaganda without any output because India used to raise legal points and tried to put aside the question of Kashmir. When India holds talks with Pakistan, New Delhi resorts to massive scale bloodshed in Jammu and Kashmir. Kashmiris start complaining that when you enter into talks with India, this causes a great blow to our pro-independence movement. It is due to this reason we have adopted the stand that a third party should come and join the bilateral talks."